Sunday, February 26, 2012

Can I mix a toy poodle and a golden retriever?

I have a 3 year old golden retriever and today I just bought a toy poodle. My question is, can you mix a toy poodle and a golden retriever without artificial insemination?|||That would be a bad idea. Please spay and neuter.|||Whoops. You failed. No. No. Spay and neuter.|||Why would you want to? Do you want to become a BYB??|||in theory you possibly could...


but here's the thing...


do you love/care for your dogs? yes?


then DON'T mix them


spay and neuter and love the breeds you have instead of breeding mutts.





all the best!|||I am not sure. Ask your vet. But here is a picture of a poddle/golden retriever.





http://images.google.com/images?hl=en%26amp;so鈥?/a>|||WOW. are you seriously going to pay like $1000 to have your crap-mixes artificially inseminated???





just get the dog fixed and save the animal shelters a lot of trouble when all of the puppies end up stuck there later in life.


the pups would not be worth ANYTHING (maybe like $20) and it would SOOOO not be worth it. plus if you just bought the dog, you have to make sure that the dogs are both checked for the health problems that the breeds have. I dont even think that the ICSB (international canine semen bank) would let you do that lol that goes against everything REAL dog breeders go for.








just get the dogs fixed and your happy. If you really want to get mixed puppies, just go to the pound and adopt one they have PLEANTY from people who do the same "hmm i wonder if they can mix? naw, they are the wrong sizes! WHAT DO YOU MEAN MY DOG GOT PREGNANT?!?!?!"





they could do it on their own but thats more work than it is worth and your golden will probably break the toy poodle's ribs and or spine. get her fixed to save the golden from going at it anyway, he doesnt know hes causing damage. (im assuming your golden is the boy. if it is the otehr way around, i would still not do it the golden could turn around and throw the dog and hurt it, not to mention snap its neck in one bite)|||Spay %26amp; Neuter.





All I have to say.|||I think breeding is wrong especially if they end up in a pound or hurt. Technically, you could. But I wouldn't (Also, it wouldn't be the best looking dog in town)|||if you want the golden retriever to kill the poodle yeah.... Nah jk But I still think it's a bad idea. Like she said, Spay and Neuter them.|||It is possible. I suppose.





WHY WOULD YOU?





Please spay and neuter both of your pets. If you insist on breeding you should know what the costs will be:





Both dogs should be at least two and have passed all their health clearances.





For the Golden: OFA hips, elbows, cardiac, and thyroid with a clean CERF exam (eyes) in the twelve months before she is bred. (health tests, dam: $500+)





For the Poodle: OFA hips, elbows, thyroid, current CERF plus a vet check for signs of eczema or allergies, and a test for STD within six months before breeding (health tests, sire: $500+)





Show both to at least one performance/companion title and their championships in their respective breeds (training classes, equipment, and entry fees for two dogs: $1000+).





Vet care for pregnant dam, $200+





Emergency fund for C-section, puppy formula, emergency spay, neonatal ICU, etc $2000+ ($2000 would cover the c-section)





Additional food for lactating dam and food for puppies, $200





Puppy worming, shots, and dewclaw removal, $50/puppy





So... if she had, say 10 puppies, your would need to charge $500 per pup to break even ($400 if absolutely no medical emergencies happened). That is, assuming you can find someone to buy a mutt with no guarantee about what traits it got from mom or dad (will it be 7 pounds or 70 when it grows up? shed? curly or straight hair? mellow like mom or yippy like dad?) at that price.





And, of course, there is always the possibility that she or he is sterile and there will be no pups, or that there will only be one or two, or that she manages to conceive and then her and all the puppies die when something goes wrong.





In that case, it's only about $5000 down the drain. Oh, and your pet is dead.





If you want to get into dog breeding, choose ONE breed, do your research, and find a breeding mentor who is responsible and successful with their dogs. In about five years you might be ready to breed.





Sorry to be such a downer, but you should know the risks before you bring new lives into the world.|||honestly, what're you thinking? you "bought" a dog like it's a purse and now you want to make puppies with two dogs that are completely different sizes? i sure hope that the golden is the female because you are going to hurt the poodle otherwise.|||You could, its not a good idea to try it, but you could.


If anyone wants a cross between a poodle and a big/medium size dog they'd usually use a regular big poodle.


and I hope you're just curious, you will NOT keep the puppies, and if you give them to other people you're sending dogs in the shelter to "Death Row"


EDIT:You won't get $1000 for them, thats only from a breeder, you'd be lucky if you get 100.|||If the golden retriever is the female, you may have to hold the poodle up while he gets it on with her though.|||Golden Retriever x Poodles


1. They don't shed and are allergy friendly.


Fact Most Golden Retriever X Poodles will shed (about 1 in every litter will not shed).


Most will aggravate allergies. It takes multi-generational breeding to breeding that reduce the allergy.


This means mostGolden Retriever X Poodle will shed and aggravate allergies and asthma like any other dog may.





A note about shedding:


There is no way to know for sure if a cross-bred pup will not shed until it gets its adult coat


(between 12-18 months old).





Some pups appear not to shed until the adult coat comes in.





2. Lower maintenance breed! I will not have to cut the non-shedding coat!


Fact: The non-shedding coat needs to be cut 3-4 times a year. (Same as a Poodle)


Regular brushing is a must or the dog will get matts and matts can be a breeding ground for parasites! (same as a Poodle)


As well all ear hair must be plucked so the ears won't get infected - (same as a Poodle.)


Click here to see Labradoodle Maintence from an Australian Labradoodle Site!!!





3. They are easier to train than a Lab.


Fact: Due to the crossing of two different breeds there can be absolutely no guarantee a cross-bred pup will


inherit the easy to train Standard Poodle personality.


It could inherit the Lab train ability.... which is not a bad thing... Labs are not stupid! But it typically takes more repetitions to train a Lab.





4. They are the latest fad! A new breed!


Fact: YES they are the latest fad! Unfortunately that means once they are no longer a fad there will be many homeless pups in animal shelters.


* This has already begun in the USA and Australia. Many of these new 'designer dogs' are available at a discount prices at animal shelters.


They are not a new breed yet! The Labradoodle (or Goldendoodle) will not be considered a new breed genetically speaking until breeding two Labradoodles together will produce off spring which all look and act similar to all Labradoodles. A breeding must produce the same type (phenotype) and only that type generation after generation. This is also called breeding true or having a stabilized breed.





5. They are cute!


Fact: * The curly haired Labradoodle looks as he does because his hair is cut into the 'Labradoodle' cut.


(Anyone with a quality pair of clippers and a bit of time can learn to clip ANY curly dog into the same


cut! This is not rocket science!)


* The thing to remember is ALL puppies are cute.


* No one can tell what a cross-breed will look like when it is an adult!


* Remember most of the dogs life will be spent as an adult.


* That cute puppy stage only lasts for a few MONTHS





6. They will be healthier because they are not inbred like purebred dogs.


Fact: * Not all Pure-Bred dogs are inbred.


* Paris Poodles are not inbred!


* Pure Bred Standard Poodles are statistically the healthiest and longest lived breed of dog.


* There is a misconception that by breeding two different breeds together you will produce a healthier


dog. Unfortunately this is not true.


* A goldendoodle can get the genetic problems common in BOTH breeds instead of just one.


One mis-informed goldendoodle breeder wrote:


"90% of all dog genetic health problems are recessive. This means that in order for a puppy to have the health problem, both parents must carry it. By breeding two dogs of different breeds, without similar health problems, we are breeding puppies with far less health problems! Crossbred dogs have far less health problems, (hybrid vigor)."





Using this theory the Lab should NOT be bred to the Standard Poodle because they share most of the same health issues! Obviously this breeder did not do their genetic research.





The bottom line is both purebred and cross-bred dogs are susceptible to potential health problems.


The best way to reduce the risk of health problems is to not inbreed, health test breeding stock and


MOST importantly make sure your breeder does extensive 10 generation pedigree research.|||No you have to get both spayed and neutered ASAP





1. You're not going to make "mini goldendoodles" you will make mutts that have NO guarantee on sizes.








2. And these same mutts get dumped in shelters months later. Just because other people are ripping others off and making shelter mutts does not mean you should do it too.|||if your golden wants bred bad enough she will get bred...my sisterinlaw had a boxer that got bred by a dachshund...she laid down so he could get her...now she has 9 pups she calls them doxers...


she's keeping a male to breed with one of her other female boxers later on...|||if the poodle is the guy. i knew a couple who's golden mated with a shitzu. the puppies were ugly (one of my friends still has one) but it was fine cuz the girl was the bigger one.





btw tats a designer breed, called a miniature goldendoodle. i have a yorkie/poodle mix; a yorkie poo. goldendoodles are ADORABLE!


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